DAA’s “Far Deeper Issues” revealed

“Looks to me like you’ve been stitched up.” This sentiment has been expressed more than once by people familiar with my case, including my lawyer.

I’m not saying that it’s true but it has certainly been my feeling. Now with the help of a legal perspective, I believe I’m better able to clarify what has happened.

This clarification is necessary I believe, in no small part because of what I see as DAA’s continued undermining of my professional competency/ character on social media, often by innuendo. DAA’s tweet from 25.8.15 could be seen as an example of this, by alluding to but not specifying, Far Deeper Issues as reasons for my expulsion. 

 My Story To Date:  

In July 2014 a dietitian lodged a complaint with my employers and forwarded it to the DAA.

The complaint was primarily that low carb diets, (such as those that I recommend to clients with type 2 diabetes and insulin resistance), are not evidence based.

In August 2014, sometime after this complaint was lodged, the complainant forwarded a letter to DAA from a disgruntled client. DAA looked at my website, and I assume became aware of my criticisms of current diet advice cutting carbsExaminer,  and MindFood.

In September 2014, I received a letter from DAA asking me to answer two main issues.

These were:

  1. “Your recommendation of a very low carbohydrate diet for type 2 diabetes management being inconsistent with Evidence Based Practice.”
  1. “The patient letter indicates that you dismissed previous evidence based advice given to this patient and provided contradictory advice, resulting in a disgruntled consumer.” (Note: this was not part of the complaint received by DAA from Dietitian X)

I gave full and comprehensive answers to these issues and followed up with more details when asked.

I received a letter from DAA in April 2015 stating that the DAA board had upheld the complaint from Dietitian X, that the matter constituted a breach of the Code of Conduct and expelled me from the association.

At the time I posted a blog saying that DAA had expelled me because of the use of low carbohydrate diets in diabetes management. This prompted an interesting response from the DAA.  An unidentified person from the National Office emailed me, claiming that the reasons for my expulsion were related to professional competency and not my dietary advice.

I was surprised to receive this letter. The complaint from Dietitian X  primarily concerned my diet approach, specifically that low carbohydrate diets were not evidence based.  The DAA upheld this complaint, and I quote:

“Re:  complaint by Dietitian X”

“The Board resolved:

That the complaint against Jennifer Forman (Elliott) is upheld..”

I posted that if DAA were now suggesting that there was another complaint relied on to expel me, then it would seem that I had not been provided with even a basic level of procedural fairness/natural justice.

This generated some interest on social media, where DAA gave alternate reasons for my dismissal, saying or implying that it was was related to professional competence (George) (DAA Tweet) and non-engagement in the process (must attend hearing) (What if I tell you….). None of this went down well with the public (Dr Halberg) (good call). DAA then said that the details were confidential (have a nice day) (damage control)    

Sometime after these tweets were posted, the DAA seemed to  change their mind about their position on confidentiality and sent me an unsolicited letter “suggesting” that they are within their rights to make the details of my case public.

Even though I found this letter threatening and intimidating, I also thought “excellent idea; now we will get to the truth”. Unfortunately DAA did not follow through.

Lack of transparency

DAA provided my employers and myself with a simple statement of their findings (you’re expelled) (she’s expelled); primarily that I had breached the Code of Conduct and was guilty of professional misconduct.

Professional misconduct is a serious offence and must be extreme to result in de-registration and lifetime ban of a practitioner. It generally involves the potential of harm to the public, negligence and/or unlawful activity.  No such accusations have been brought against me; the complaint was about LC diets, with DAA’s addition of the experience of a disgruntled client.

Are these the “Far deeper issues” responsible for my expulsion from the DAA?

So what exactly were DAA’s grounds for such a harsh finding resulting in loss of my employment and income?

I still find this hard to believe and remain prepared to be corrected by DAA if I’ve made a mistake in my interpretation, but according to a letter I received from DAA in March 2015, it appears the following issues constituted the grounds for DAA’s finding of “professional misconduct”:

 1. Lack of documented diet history.

Prior to a consultation, potential clients provide a written record of their usual dietary intake and it is therefore rarely necessary to repeat this in person.

 2. That I recommended a generic, non-personalised meal plan without a rationale.

Is DAA saying that I suggested the CSIRO Wellbeing diet for a trial period on a whim? If a client who consults me for diet advice fits the diagnostic criteria of Metabolic Syndrome, there is a sound scientific basis as to why a lower carb eating plan is appropriate. I have studied the science behind this, written a well-referenced book about it, been invited to explain my approach to doctors and diabetes educators and advised on and observed the results of this way of eating for 100s of clients.

I have never found it necessary to remind myself in writing why I am recommending a lower carb approach.

My notes do not convey the time taken to explain the rationale of why a reduced carb intake is the approach of choice for a person with high BGLs. This explanation was provided to DAA in my initial answers to the complaint.

 3.  That I incorrectly interpreted biochemistry.

I recorded available biochemistry but no interpretation of these results was documented.

 4. That I did not document an assessment of the client’s nutritional needs.

 In general, the main nutritional need of a client who presents with features of Met Syn and with clear evidence of poor glycaemic control, is a reduction in their intake of carbohydrate. Even though detailed evidence for this assessment is not put in writing each time I see a client, it’s covered when I write my usual: “Features of Met Syn (specified), therefore likely to be IR. Explained pathways of carb metabolism and rationale for reduced carb intake and regular exercise.”

5.  That my notes on this client “did not include an assessment of her previous dietary knowledge, past experience with dietary interventions and her expectations from the dietary counselling I was providing as would be expected from an entry level dietitian”

Firstly, with 35 years experience, I would have thought I’d gone past the entry level mark but if that is DAA’s benchmark, let’s take it further.

Maybe I should have written something along the lines of the following comments in my notes for each of the hundreds of clients with diabetes who have consulted me over the years and have previously been instructed in the conventional diet approach:

a) Assessment of previous dietary knowledge:

 “Client has understood and followed the advice given by the Australian Diabetes Council/ Diabetes Australia/ local diabetes group etc, which recommend a low saturated fat/ low GI diet, with an even spread of carbohydrate over the day. My assessment of this advice is that such a diet is likely to ensure the client’s BGLs will continue to remain high, requiring an increasing amount of diabetes medication to control the resulting hyperglycaemia and predisposing the client to diabetic complications such as retinopathy, CHD, neuropathy and kidney failure.”

b) Past experience with dietary interventions:

I could also have written something like this 100’s of times in clients’ notes:

“Previous dietary interventions appear to have been successful in one sense, in that the client’s reported usual diet contains many lower fat alternatives, mainly low GI options and carbs are spread evenly over the day.

My assessment is that conventional diet advice has not been spectacularly successful in another sense, evidenced by sub-optimal glycaemic control, weight issues, excessive hunger, tiredness, mood swings and the need for increasing amounts of medications to try and manage high BGLs.”

Maybe such documentation would satisfy DAA’s criteria of acceptable record keeping but I know at least one of my managers would have told me off for being a smart arse.

 The simple point appears to be that the DAA apparently doesn’t like the way I kept my notes; at least on this one client, as it seems that is all they went by.

The question in my mind is why DAA, a self regulated professional association thinks it’s role is to assess my notes at all? In the workplace it is the responsibility of managers to assess all aspects of clinicians work via regular Professional Development Plans. These have been carried out over the last 25 years, with hundreds of my records available for scrutiny. For my last PDP it was suggested that I not abbreviate so much to make it easier for others to read; I was not accused of professional misconduct for not providing details DAA expects of an entry level dietitian.

  1. That they found no evidence that I understood how to critically appraise scientific evidence and apply evidence based practice                                                    I would have to assume that my initial responses to the complaint, which provided this information, were ignored, not read or not understood.
  1. That my social media activity did not demonstrate professional and ethical behaviour.

No details were given for this and the naughtiest thing I remember writing on FB is that sometimes I’m embarrassed to say that I’m a dietitian. That hasn’t changed and if asked, I now say that I’m a nutritionist.

These are apparently my breaches of DAA’s Code of Conduct and are the “Far Deeper Issues” on which I was found guilty of professional misconduct, but for good measure DAA added two more things they didn’t like:

  1. No verifiable evidence of on-going education

I have written and published a well-referenced book on the management of type 2 diabetes and metabolic syndrome Baby boomers, Bellies and Blood Sugars and had an article published in a peer reviewed journal in 2014 Flaws, Fallacies and Facts: Reviewing the Early History of the Lipid and Diet/Heart Hypotheses. These can be verified.

2. Non-engagement in a disciplinary process.

DAA has indicated that expulsion is not taken lightly and that it only occurs with non-engagement in the process and/or when there is significant evidence of poor or dangerous practice.

Is the DAA really saying that a reason for dismissal is not doing what their officers tell you?

Do they just make up these rules as they go along because I cannot find mention of such a condition in their constitution.

In my case, I fully engaged in the process until the point that I realised I was facing a kangaroo court. This is the point at which DAA refused to answer my very reasonable questions and instead responded to my letter with the suggestion that I re-read the Complaints and Disciplinary By-Law.

As for significant evidence of poor or dangerous practice …….. I don’t know what to say.

Except this: I have used a lower carb approach for people with diabetes and insulin resistance for over 10 years. The reality of my working life was that I had the support of GPs who referred their clients to me because of the diet approach I used and the success that many clients experienced; participation in regular PDPs over the years with my managers to assess all aspects of my clinical practice and always positive feed-back from  client satisfaction surveys . My manager’s conclusion to one such survey was this:

The most outstanding part of the survey was the client’s comments on the level of understanding they now have about their dietary concerns, meal planning and how well this was communicated to them. There were also comments on the holistic approach Jennifer uses and how at ease they felt with her. The comments indicate that the level of service was excellent and that they all felt motivated to change their eating habits.

These comments included the following:

Maintain the standard. This is the first time I have ever had a simple explanation of my problem and why I should have an eating plan. I was extremely impressed.

Any further assistance offered to Jennifer would be resources well used. Her empathy and practical knowledge are rare assets and we are very lucky to have them.

In addition, a previous complaint by a dietitian about my diet approach was lodged with DAA 8 years ago. Because I was not a member of DAA back then (thankfully), the investigation was carried out by my employer. The complaint was not substantiated and I could continue to practice.

A final word

I’m at a loss to see how the reason for my expulsion from membership is not directly related to my recommendation of a lower carb diet in the treatment of type 2 diabetes, despite denials from the DAA.

I base this on the following, after extensive discussions with my lawyer and others:

 If you take what DAA have said publicly about dismissal not being about my diet approach and remove this as a reason, and as I immediately addressed the use of testimonials on my website, then:

 the investigation was solely about a letter from a patient (who I saw once for little over an hour), sent to another dietitian and expressing dissatisfaction with our interview

 what I said to her was directly related to the low carb issue – this issue therefore remains at the hub of what the DAA was investigating

However, imy dismissal is solely about the handling of that one patient then:

  • The DAA has therefore taken the most serious action that it can take (again, as stated in its own material) against a member, based on a letter of dissatisfaction from one person
  • That person did not come back to me having cancelled her next scheduled appointment so I was not able to assist her with any issues she may have had
  • I would imagine that the DAA would be aware of the number of patients I have seen over my career so believe the level of sanction is extraordinary. 
  • DAA references to “substantial or consistent failure to reach or maintain a reasonable standard of competence” and “Dismissal is very rare …significant evidence of poor or dangerous practice”;  how can this be found on the basis of one person who was “disgruntled” – but obviously not in any physical danger?

I would like to see an inquiry into DAA’s practices, including partnerships with the food industry, the manner in which disciplinary procedures are carried out and DAA’s roles in accreditation of university courses and in the updating of the 2013 Australian Dietary Guidelines.

I believe there is an urgent need for AHPRA (Australian Health Practitioner Regulatory Association) to take over the registration of dietitians, because despite DAA equating its complaints procedures with those of AHPRA, there are significant differences.

AHPRA: When we take action about practitioners, we use the minimum regulatory force to manage the risk posed by their practice, to protect the public. Our actions are designed to protect the public and not to punish practitioners.

 Also, it is my understanding that if a practitioner wants to have a decision by AHPRA reviewed, the matter can be referred to an outside agency, namely the National Health Practitioner Ombudsman.

In comparison, it appears that if a member of DAA wants to have a DAA decision reviewed, he/she makes their request to the DAA! Or if they can afford it, the member may choose to take legal action through the courts.

In it’s submission to the AustralianHealth Ministers’ Advisory Council (2011), DAA said that it, “…….does not seek to become a registered profession, as it has mechanisms …… similar to the AHPRA to provide public protection.”

Maybe they do, but who protects members from the DAA?

I think I’ll stop now, before I start banging my head against the wall.

What’s next?

I would be really interested in any comments and/or suggestions on how to proceed.

There’s a chance that a reversal of DAA’s decision could mean reinstatement in one of my former workplaces. If you think that DAA’s decision was questionable/ unfair, could I ask that you send such a message to DAA.

DAA’s email: nationaloffice@daa.asn.au

I would also appreciate it if you would cc me or post your comment here, so that there can be an independent record of correspondence.

My email: jennifer@babyboomersandbellies.com

Thank you for your support.




25 thoughts on “DAA’s “Far Deeper Issues” revealed”

  1. Jennifer, you have been unfairly treated. The reason why I know you originally is after reading your health posts. I’ve become a more healthier and happier T2 because of them. To me your approach was such a step ahead and it showed your care for people and experience in your profession. I’m letting you know I’m in this with you. I want you to be reinstated and given justice you deserve. You’re much needed today and we cannot stand silently without defending someone who speaks on our behalf and wellbeing. And has so much of our welfare at heart. It’s very easy to see that but also very apparent to see and feel the wrongness and evil behind DAA actions. This injustice must be undone or our rights and wellbeing will continue to be compromised. Justice for Jennifer Elliot is justice for me also.

    1. Hi Mal. Thank you for your supportive comments; they are very much appreciated. If I’m not reinstated but my situation has been a catalyst for positive change and increased awareness in LC diets for diabetes, I’ll be very happy 🙂

  2. Despite following the advice of a diabetic dietitian when I was diagnosed about 7-8 years ago (and a follow up with another dietitian about 3 years ago), I got continually fatter and my diabetes became uncontrollable.

    In the last 3 years or so, eating a low GI meal would consistently result in unreasonably high blood sugar levels and then I would experience dangerously low blood sugar levels at other times of the day because of the high levels of medication I was taking.

    It was only after hearing about changing my way of eating to low carb that I found an alternate way of trying to manage my diabetes (I researched it thoroughly before I began.) My then GP was ignoring my repeated concerns about my blood sugar levels so I switched to low carb high (good) fats and within two months my diabetes was under control for the first time in three years.

    I’ve switched to a new GP who claims he specialises in chronic conditions such as diabetes, and I think I’m providing him with an education about low carb because he seemed unaware of this option when I started. My GP is impressed with my diabetic control and resulting 9kg weight loss from this new way of eating. My insulin has halved and is slowly decreasing even further. Health-wise I feel better then I have done in quite some years now – I’m even losing some of the tingling in my toes and regaining my feeling!

    It is simply ridiculous that this way of eating is not being taken seriously. Low fat low GI diets do not work for many people, certainly it doesn’t seem to do so in the long-term. It is ridiculous that the health of patients is being jeopardised by GPs and a medical profession who obstinately believe that they have the “only” way to help diabetics.

    They’re wrong but they don’t want to admit it! “Hey the world is flat! It’s flat I say! Everyone knows the world is flat and anyone who disagrees with us will be punished.”

    Jennifer, sometimes it takes one person to make all the difference, but sometimes you become the scapegoat in the process. You have been treated appallingly and I will be personally emailing the DAA and letting them know my disgust about their treatment of you, and telling them about how my new way of eating has finally gotten my diabetes under control.

    I’ve changed my way of eating to low carb high fat and it’s been like a miracle! I regained control of my diabetes in about six weeks and it’s gotten better and better in the 5-6 months since then.

    I feel like I’ve been given my life back.

    1. Hi Vicki. Thank you for sharing your story. Your message is so important, that diabetes is not a progressive disease and can be managed or even reversed with the correct diet. The businesses that control the current guidelines are likely to be resistant to change but it’s people like you who are doing the educating of doctors, dietitians and diab educators that are bringing change about by example. I would be interested in the response from the DAA. Most of all though, I wish you continued success and good health.

  3. Hi Jennifer – I can’t see any reason why you would want to be associated any longer with DAA. They are on the nose, and have been for quite some time.

    Have you considered starting a new association for independent dietitians who dont rely on big business to keep their infrastructure afloat and who don’t rely on outdated research or research that supports profit making food companies to drive dietary advice and policy in Australia.

    I was recently referred to a dietitian by my endocrinologist but didn’t bother going as I had no way of telling whether this person would peddle the same old same old (which I know is not useful to me). It would be great if there was an association of dietitians who were not fettered by old information and big business and who had my best interests at the centre of their practise.

    All the best.

    1. Jennifer – this is a great idea!
      An Association that is focused on current real science ….
      And I know just the girl to help get it together!

    2. Thank you for your comment Mary. I now call myself a nutritionist and am looking at registration with another body. I think a good outcome would be for dietitians to be registered under AHPRA and then to have one or more member organisations that could organise seminars, disseminate info etc. An independent research/science facility such as CSIRO would be my choice for updating (or maybe scrapping?) the ADGs, rather than that task going to the DAA as it did for the 2013 update. I certainly don’t want to be associated with DAA but I would have liked my $650 membership refunded 🙁

  4. This is very unfair to you. But I think this is probably a net “good thing” to have happened.

    Had the DAA not overreached in your case they could have quietly continued on their established policy that was causing actual harm to the life and limbs of people with Diabetes. The DAA policy underpins the actual dietary advice distributed by Diabetes Australia the peak body for sufferers of diabetes, and makes us (diabetics) sicker and requiring of more expensive medication and medical intervention.

    That the DAA clearly have the wrong end of the argument is self evident, and they will now need to come to a very public reckoning. Beyond that their advice will necessarily have to improve for the dietary treatment of diabetes, and that is good for Diabetics, a good thing for Dietitians who aspire to help their patients with evidence based nutrition, not to mention the a good thing for the taxpayers of Australia.

    I hope for your sake that reckoning is soon.

    1. Hi Richard
      Thank you for your comments. I think you are spot-on with your observations! There are a number of dietitians who have gone through DAA’s complaints/disciplinary process, but none have gone public in the way I have; my guess is that this was totally unexpected by DAA. There are some good things that could potentially come out this saga; dietitians themselves making the call for AHPRA to take over registration and improvement in the advice DAA give, as you suggested. We’ll have to wait and see 🙂

  5. Great publicity angle!
    “proud to be expelled from the DAA for getting people off their diabetes drugs.”


    “If you are following the DAA diet and have been able to reduce or eliminate your drugs for BG control, please contact me. So far NO ONE has come forward. Whereas XX of my clients have been able to reduce/eliminate their drugs. “

    1. Along the lines of “Proud to be expelled from the DAA”, there are now quite a few people on FB and Twitter who are proud to claim “Blocked by DAA”. Some had the audacity to ask questions!

  6. Hi Jennifer. I’m am quite saddened by your case. An FB group I joined recommended the members send a letter to the MP. Sent mine already. Hope they read letters sent from Malaysia 😀 God willing, things will favor you. Good luck!!!

  7. Perhaps a gofundme campaign to find legal defense. Not for you personally, but for the sake of others in the same situation in the future. Maybe there are enough people around the world that it could become funded and affect useful change.

  8. Jennifer, thank you for putting up a good fight, not only for your professional reputation, but for the health and well-being of so many of us who have insulin resistance. While a low carbohydrate diet may not be for everyone, it has certainly kept me from T2 Diabetes (with all of the dangers that brings) and it has allowed me to reduce my epileptic seizure medicine, since a low carb ketogenic diet was what epileptic patients were given before the introduction of seizure drugs. It’s like a “two-fer” of health benefits with one eating plan!

    Within a year after I started low carb, I watched my blood sugar levels drop from almost-diabetic heights to normal. For the first time in my adult life, my weight dropped to a normal level and as long as I eat low carb, it never varies from that level by more than 2 lbs. This 70+ year old went from metabolic syndrome, arthritis and ill health, to a healthy lifestyle with absolutely no pains–and it took no effort at all to stick to to low-carb eating, unlike my former attempts at “dieting.” I am an excellent example of an individual for whom the low-fat/high-carb diet was almost disastrous.

    So thank you for fighting for what you believe in. It is astounding to me how the DAA–and many other health professionals–can be so very narrow-minded. Surely they should have their patients’ best interest at heart, but by denigrating low carb, they are the ones who are endangering the public.

    1. Hi Lee. Apologies for my belated response! Thank you for your comment and support. One argument I’ve heard against recommending LC is the belief that it’s too big a change to ask people to make and that it’s hard to stick to. You’ve proven that’s false and I’m sure you’d agree that people should be given the choice to find out for themselves whether the approach suits them or not. It’s wonderful that you responded so well to LC and I hope that you continue to be in good health.

  9. Jen is there a real chance that DAA can be taken over by AHPRA. I would love to see this happen. How can we keep updated on progress

    1. I agree that would be a great outcome, Helen! And it is a possibility. If such a decision is made, it will take less than a minute for me and others to make it public 🙂

  10. As you’ve probably seen by Gary Fettke’s experience with AHPRA, perhaps having them take over this function of DAA might not necessarily be a good thing.

  11. Hi Jennifer, Thank you for your book – a great read, easy to understand and makes absolute sense.
    Isn’t this really about Big Pharma, The Government and the sickness industry? I am no professional in the health industry (although would love to be) I am a mere ‘educator’ of primary aged children who has left the system due to disliking government policies and how they want me to teach. Don’t these same governing bodies enjoy and need to keep people sick and needing medication? I could go on here about the fluoride in our water, the school system making good little soldiers out of our children and much more, but I won’t. Australia needs more people like you, Pete Evans and Elaine Hollingsworth as well as many others to stand up for the well being of our population. I feels as though we are slowly killing ourselves while the Government secretly smiles, puts people in their place who dare think for themselves and rubs their hands together. I have lost friends over this debate, but like you said, hopefully your way of thinking will become the norm and not an alternative lifestyle.
    Thank you Jennifer.

    1. Hi Therese. Thank you for your comments about my book.
      I think conflicts of interest are rife throughout organisations that the public rely on for health and nutrition advice. We just need to look at their corporate partnerships and sponsors to see the evidence. The DAA receives approx $1M pa from their partnerships with Nestle, the Australian Breakfast Cereal Manufacturer Forum and others. The question has been asked as to how much this influences their advice and guidelines? CEO Claire Hewat draws a whopping annual income in the hundreds of thousands, despite the organisation appearing to have made recent losses. It’s been suggested that keeping sponsors happy and their money flowing presents a very real conflict of interest. And one that many dietitians are extremely unhappy about and would like see change.
      I agree that much of the current dietary advice, from the likes of Diab Australia, DAA and the NHMRC, is having detrimental effects on the health of the population and I’ve lost faith in the possibility of change from the top, unless of course Nick Xenophon and Peter Whish-Wilson take over. (I’m still in awe of their contribution to the Senate inquiry into AHPRA and Gary Fettke’s case). Looks like change has to come from the ground up via the networking wonder of social media. I think it’s working and we can all play a part in that 🙂

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